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@crlf0710 crlf0710 commented Mar 2, 2025

This commit adds graydon hoare to a dedicated initial-designer marker team alumni to give credit to their initial contributions

cc #319

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jieyouxu commented Aug 8, 2025

Triage: I think the problem is that #council > Adding Graydon Hoare to an `initial-designer` marker team @ 💬

btw the alumni team is not currently on the website, AFAIK

I think?

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ehuss commented Aug 8, 2025

I think this is largely blocked in that it has no effect, and thus probably isn't worth merging right now.

It's maybe a larger questions of whether or not we want to publicly have archived teams appear on the website, or whether or not to have a consolidated alumni page, or any other kind of organization.

We also don't show any marker teams, which would also be a blocker here (and generally I would prefer to avoid use of marker teams like this).

I would also note that an alternate approach here would be to just add him as an alumni to another team, like core.

If the intent is mainly to manage the website, then I think the council's stance has largely been that we want to delegate ownership of that to the @rust-lang/website team. If they want to figure out some way to better highlight past members and archived teams, I don't think that really needs our involvement.

(There's maybe a minor concern that some people specifically don't want to be acknowledged. Probably not the case here, but something to be aware of if extending it more broadly.)

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Kobzol commented Aug 8, 2025

We also don't show any marker teams, which would also be a blocker here (and generally I would prefer to avoid use of marker teams like this).

We do actually! Since ~2 months ago or something, marker teams with a website entry are now shown on the webpage.

Regarding Graydon, I would perhaps just hardcode him on the web.

But having a dedicated alumni/archived team page would also be great.

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Kobzol commented Sep 26, 2025

rust-lang/www.rust-lang.org#2202 adds archived teams to the Rust website.

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Kobzol commented Oct 6, 2025

As the archived teams are now shown on the Rust website, this is no longer blocked.

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Kobzol commented Nov 18, 2025

@crlf0710 Are you interested in continuing with this PR? It would be great to apply #1672 (comment).

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Are you interested in continuing with this PR?

Yes, i rebased and applied suggested change. Hope i'm doing everything correctly!

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[WARN  sync_team] sync-team is running in dry mode, no changes will be applied.
[INFO  sync_team] synchronizing github

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Kobzol commented Nov 19, 2025

Seems like yes, thank you! We will discuss this at the next Council meeting this Friday, and hopefully get it merged.

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graydon commented Nov 21, 2025

I was asked to comment here so I will: I approve of (and am in fact a bit relieved) to appear at least somewhere in the project history! I did dedicate several years of my life to this thing, was the "tech lead" for 3 of those years, and did a lot of initial design and implementation (wrote most of rustboot, and still committer 20 on rustc after all these years).

However: if you're going for completeness you should also make sure to mention a bunch of other people who predated the existence of "teams" and their associated rosters of members. I did not work alone after 2009! I have pieced together a list over the years in a private repo I'm collecting memorabilia in. I will just quote from the readme file in that repo:

Early contributor list

This list is a little random, though vaguely systematic. It includes groups of
people myself and Brian definitely remember as "working on Rust" in some formal
capacity -- paid by Mozilla or some other organization -- as well as a subset of
informally-related people from the top couple dozen committers by volume during
the pre-1.0 timeframe, friends of the tree, and people active on IRC back then.

(For people who migrated from one category to another over time, I've put them
in the "highest paid / most-full-time" category they eventully occupied. Several
interns and volunteers were later employees.)

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amazing to see my name among legends

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